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Date: 30 Oct 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Concern for the NG
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Subject: Re: Concern for the NG
>From: catherine yronwode
I really don't see how the terms "vicious", and "mud-slinging" can properly
apply to anything I said. And no, I am not picking a fight. I've taken a
position, in response to yours, and I think it's clear enough. (1) There is
really no "crisis"; (2) it is sufficient that members ignore those posts they
find uninteresting or flammable or junk or what-have-you; (3) if you and/or
Eoghan choose to form a moderated group, my suggestion would be to leave the
words "orisha" and "religion" out of the title, otherwise I will oppose it.
Peace,
Grisso
cat@luckymojo.com
>Date: 10/29/00 11:30 PM EST
>Message-id: <39FCFB23.2761@luckymojo.com>
>
>Grisso, you are picking a fight with me for no reason. You wrote:
>
>> Now, if certain people of tender heart and thin skin want to be
>> protected from sometimes stinging public comment, then by all means
>> let them set up their sanitized little group somewhere, with a
>> moderator firmly in control of the gate, and a faux emperor certain
>> not to have his pet falsehoods challenged. By all means, go right
>> ahead.
>
> I said that i thought a moderated newsgroup would not be feasible. I
>did not say i wanted to set up a maderated newsgroup. Pease, don't make
>up things and attribute them to me.
>
>> I certainly will have no part of it. I would also in
>> that case resist very strongly any attempt by you and Eoghan (let's
>> face it, you have your own little gang going, and you have each
>> other's back - that's your right) to create such a group with either
>> the words "religion" or "orisha" included.
>
>Well, as i recall, Denise, Eoghan, and i were the movers behind the
>creation of alt.religion,orisha -- and none of us are talking about
>creating ANOTHER group.
>
>> Call it alt.magic.cat or alt.magic.eoghan or alt.magic.hoodoo or
>> alt.anthropology.magic.african or whatever.
>
>Huh? Are you trying to be insulting here? Is this sarcasm? If so, why do
>you use it? I can understand plain English well enough.
>
>I already use alt.lucky.w for the discussion of folkmagic and hoodoo,
>and there are already several anthropology newsgroups, so it seems like
>you are just trying to say that i have no right to be here, which is
>your opinion, but a false one, since alt.religion,orisha was chartered
>for the discussion of all African-diaspora religious and magical
>traditions, including hoodoo (see the charter).
>
>> But please don't degrade
>> traditional African religion by setting something up by that name and
>> installing a sorcerer and freemason-cum-hoodoo-hobbyist as resident
>> moderators
>
>Your anger has caused you to lose track of what was said. Leaving aside
>the insults to Eoghan and me, i distinctly said i do NOT have time or
>desire to moderate a newsgroup and that i thought that kill-filing
>hostile posters would be easier than creating a moderated newsgroup. So
>why do you imagine that i would be a moderator of a newsgeroup?
>
>As to the insults, your calling me a "freemason-cum-hoodoo-hobbyist" is
>the trash-talk equivalent of that Meester Eddy who rants on and on about
>"scum" and "fags" -- and you have shcked and hurt me with this post. I
>really thought your and i were mutually respectful parties and i
>certainly had little or no participation at all in your debates with
>Eoghan, so why did you slam me with such disrespectful terminology?
>
>I certainly shall think three times about kill-filing you, as your
>writing has always been of interest to me (and i have stated the same
>publically often enough). But after all the colloquies we have had here,
>your sudden vicious slagging of me -- in response to NOTHING I HAVE
>SAID -- leads me to believe that it is important at this time to let you
>know one thing about me that you have overlooked:
>
>I will not participate in low mud-slinging with you of the type you just
>handed me.
>
>cat yronwode
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