Subject: Re: On interracial relationships, or anything
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:36:11 GMT
Wayne Johnson (ciacon@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Thomas) wrote:
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: >But "right to land" suffices for the present purpose,
: >specifically to suggest that there is a fundamental flaw in
: >the European asili, for it is its failure to respect the
: >right to land of "the other", and even its failure to respect
: >the right of "the other" to control his own labor, that has
: >led, in turn, to feudalism, imperialism, slavery, colonialism,
: >neo-colonialism, and patriarchal sexism.
: Thank God you left communism out of this massive sentence.
: It certainly wouldn't fit in, would it?
I don't see why not. I also left out capitalism, and that too
would fit in quite well, based as it is on the continuing theft
of labor (ie. subject to wage-slavery) from those already
dispossessed in the original land theft.
(( cuts ))
: >You might
: >also consider directing your attention instead at family
: >breakdown and prostitution in the West, which are conditions
: >that to my mind cause the oppression of women more than
: >female circumcision can.
: My attention is not on this issue.
I wonder why not, it's in your own backyard, in contrast to
the practice of female circumcision over in Africa.
: I am not attempting to validate a
: ludicrous stance that all that is African, and traditional, is
: defensible. ^^^
That is not my point. You are again being either obtuse or
dishonest... like so many of my opponents.
: That is your issue, and the results are astounding; you
: are babbling about how a woman can still be sexually whole, with her
: labia carved to hamburger with a rusty knife, or a sharp rock, or
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: whatever. Without anesthesia.
: My God.
Do you oppose the practice, or do you oppose the way it is
carried out? If you want an honest debate, it is best to
stick to principle. If you want to score propaganda points
however... I suppose it helps to spray your opponent's
argument with a little "DDT"--_D_istort his argument, _D_istract
attention away from the main point, and _T_rash your opponent
at every opportunity. Propaganda, by the way, is very much
a creation of the European asili, unconcerned as it is with
the principles of Maat as a guide to behavior. It is why, within
the European asili, it is considered that "truth is the first
casualty of war". Goebbels is widely considered the father
of modern propaganda, but that is a lie; the Americans and
the British and the Soviets were just as skillful liars as
Goebbels ever was, and they all had a lot of practice. For
in order to bring us, in turn, feudalism, imperialism, slavery,
colonialism, neo-colonialism, capitalism, and communism, (what
did I leave out this time?) the architests and maintainers
of these systems had to be very accomplished in their duplicity,
which is usually a necessary precursor to divide-and-conquer.
I do not play the propaganda game. I rest on truth, reason,
and argument, in keeping with the principles of Maat. I wish
my opponents would do the same, but I do not expect it,
realist that I am.
: Wayne "If this practice were to take hold in American communities,
: would you support it?" Johnson
: ciacon@ix.netcom.com
As for me and my family, the answer is no. But neither do I
take it upon myself to impose restrictions or sanctions upon
those who follow the practice as part of a long-standing tradition
and custom. I would not want the American Government, Godless
and lawless as it is, attempting to interfere in my right to
raise my children.
In Maat,
"Adopt ye not the ways of the oppressor".
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery." -- Bob Marley (Redemption Song)
PS. I will not be able to post again for a while, although I
will be able to check in from time to time to see what
people are writing. Ray and John will have to hold the fort
by themselves while I am away. I see that the Euro-asilic
forces (why is it we have Euro-asilic Blacks in abundance,
but no Afri-asilic whites, I wonder) have launched a furious
counter-assault on the very notion that
there might be some difference between core African, and core
European values. There is "no difference", they claim.
Yet they deny the possibility of the existence of shared, core
traditional African values (ie. an "African" asili) common
to the many peoples of that great continent, on the opposite ground
that there are "too many differences". Y'all have to come
better than that. The existence of differences does not
render impossible the existence, also, of things in common.
OTOH, inconsistency was never an impediment
to the committed propagandist, nor to those in their thrall.
But that is all I can say for now. Duty calls, and deadlines loom.
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